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‘The Boys’ Season 3 Ending Explained: Homelander With Zero Accountability?



‘The Boys’ Season 3 Ending Explained: Homelander With Zero Accountability?

Editor’s note: This article contains spoilers for Season 3 of The Boys.

The third season of Amazon’s The Boys has been a violent rollercoaster filled with musical numbers, animated imaginary friends, and an explosive Herogasm. Hughie Campbell (Jack Quaid) reteams with Billy Butcher (Karl Urban) and the Boys to take out Homelander (Antony Starr) once and for all by harnessing the energy blasts from Payback leader Soldier Boy (Jensen Ackles). Butcher and Homelander promised each other a scorched earth battle, and that’s exactly where we’re left at the end of the Season 3 finale. While we wait for Season 4 (which can’t come soon enough), here’s where The Seven and the Boys stand currently.


Soldier Boy Back on Ice

Matters complicate when it’s revealed that Soldier Boy’s DNA was used to create Homelander, making Homelander his son. After learning this, Billy Butcher still drives Soldier Boy to New York in order to fulfill their deal. Soldier Boy feels the tension between standing firm on his promise versus a duty to his son; in fact, he confides in Butcher and reveals his own turbulent relationship with his own father. Though he always dreamed of being a better father than his own, history repeats itself as he eviscerates Homelander the same way his father did. When Homelander introduces his father to his grandson, Soldier Boy laments that he wished he could have raised him so Homelander could actually be better. Soldier Boy, Queen Maeve (Dominique McElligott), and Butcher hold down Homelander before Ryan (Cameron Crovetti) knocks his grandfather off his father.

When Soldier Boy retaliates against Ryan, Butcher switches his allegiance, fighting off Soldier Boy in order to protect Ryan. The Boys arrive at the scene and attempt to take him out with the nerve gas that Frenchie (Tomer Capone) concocts in the Vought laboratory; even Mother’s Milk (Laz Alonso) has his chance to take revenge for the damage Soldier Boy caused his family. In the end, when Soldier Boy attempts to blow the building with a blast of energy, it’s Queen Maeve who throws herself and Soldier Boy out the tower, saving thousands of lives. Now incapacitated by the nerve gas, Grace Mallory (Laila Robins) takes an unconscious Soldier Boy off to an undisclosed location.

Queen Maeve Finds Her Escape

Like Butcher, all season long Maeve has had her focus set on one thing– killing Homelander and freeing herself from his control. For months, she’s secretly provided information to Butcher on ways to finish Homelander. When Homelander discovers this, he locks her away in a cell in Vought Tower. After she escapes and meets up with Annie and the Boys at M.M.’s apartment, she joins them in finding Butcher. Maeve then throws out the nerve agent Frenchie originally procured so that they could stick to Butcher’s original plan.


As Butcher begins to fight Soldier Boy for attacking Ryan, Maeve finally faces off against her ex-boyfriend. Though she’s able to throw in some blows, Homelander crushes in one of her eyes. She, along with everyone in the building, is about to be killed from Soldier Boy’s blast until she throws herself and Soldier Boy out the building. To the world, it appears Queen Maeve died in her sacrifice to save New York. In reality, the Boys retrieve her after she’s knocked unconscious and loses her powers. While the world mourns her loss, Ashley Barrett (Colby Minifie) finds the security footage of her survival. Though she has acted as Homelander’s puppet for the past two seasons, she permanently deletes the footage, finally protecting Maeve from Homelander. With her secret identity intact and reconciled with Elena (Nicola Correia-Damude), Maggie leaves New York to start a new and normal life on a farm, far away from Homelander and The Seven.

The Boys’ New Roster

Throughout the season, Kimiko Miyashiro (Karen Fukuhara), Frenchie, and M.M. have debated whether they’d stay or leave the Boys. M.M. was only brought back when he saw an opportunity to finally finish his father’s mission to kill Soldier Boy. He tried to keep his daughter, Janine (Liyou Abere), separate from the brutal nature of Supes; after his ex-wife’s new boyfriend, Todd (Matthew Gorman), took his daughter to a Homelander rally, M.M. lashed out against him in front of Janine. Once his business with Soldier Boy is finished, M.M. tells Janine the truth about his line of work and how not all Supes are heroes. Though he originally feared this would push his daughter away, Janine hugs her father and tells him that he is her hero. With her support, M.M. chooses to remain part of the Boys.

Likewise, Frenchie and Kimiko debated whether they’d stay or leave the group in order to start a new life together in Marseilles. After Soldier Boy removes her powers, Kimiko was given the freedom to decide what she could do with her life. When she and Frenchie are taken by Little Nina (Katia Winter), she realizes that she wants to be injected with Compound V in order to protect the people she loves. Kimiko no longer sees herself as different and embraces the maniac from within. Together, she and Frenchie also choose to stay with the Boys, with Frenchie standing up for himself against Butcher and his orders.

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With the help of M.M., Starlight (Erin Moriarty) livestreamed her exit from The Seven, revealing her secret identity and calling out Homelander’s true demeanor in the process. She works with the Boys to fight off Soldier Boy in Vought Tower. Annie and Hughie had been on the rocks, especially after Hughie admits that it does bother him that he can’t save his superpowered girlfriend. However, when given the option to take more Temp V when Starlight is in trouble against Soldier Boy, he supports her by turning on all the lights to help supercharge her. After the battle, Annie officially retires Starlight by throwing her costume away. Now that she’s free from The Seven, the Boys offer her a position on their team. Though Butcher might not like it, the rest of the team assert their authority stating the Boys is a democracy. Now that she and Hughie are back together, and she has a new team, things are finally looking up for Annie.

Butcher Against The Clock

Annie warns Butcher that Temp V is going to kill him and Hughie since they used it a considerable amount throughout the season – the random bleeding is symptomatic of their brain’s atrophy from Temp V. Instead of directly telling Hughie, Butcher knocks him out and leaves him in a gas station bathroom to save him from using more Temp V against Homelander. Butcher initially goes with Soldier Boy alone to face Homelander, but Queen Maeve joins him after she and the Boys confront him in their office in the Flatiron Building. Butcher promised Homelander a scorched earth battle to the death; though initially he makes good on that promise by bringing in Soldier Boy, he reluctantly sides with Homelander when Ryan’s life is on the line.

After Soldier Boy is defeated by Maeve, Butcher tries to comfort Ryan. However, in a complete reversal of the Season 2 finale, Ryan rejects Butcher and leaves with Homelander. To make matters worse, he collapses and wakes up in a hospital. A doctor tells him that Temp V has caused so much damage to his brain that any further treatment would affect his livelihood. Butcher is given a time frame of a year to 18 months at most before he’s a goner. So what does he plan to do with his remaining time? In true Butcher fashion, he opts not to tell the Boys his diagnosis. Perhaps in his remaining time, he could attempt to make things right with Ryan or kill Homelander for good, but no matter what, Butcher intends to use his remaining time to go out guns blazing.

For now, Butcher’s sole focus is to continue the work of the Boys by going after Victoria Neuman (Claudia Doumit), who’s still on the loose. In exchange for giving Homelander Ryan’s location, he orders The Deep (Chace Crawford) to murder her political opponent; now as the new Vice Presidential candidate to Secretary of Defense Robert Singer (Jim Beaver) she’s put in a position to gain even more power. Since the Boys know Victoria’s Supe secret, and she knows that they know, we can expect them to clash in Season 4.


Homelander With Zero Accountability

Despite knowing the truth that Soldier Boy is his father, Homelander looks for the chance to finally have the family he never had. So much so, that when Black Noir (Nathan Mitchell) returns to Vought Tower and communicates that they need to kill Soldier Boy, Homelander kills Black Noir to prevent that; plus, Homelander was equally upset that Black Noir knew the truth about his parentage and never told him. With Black Noir gone and Starlight out of The Seven, Homelander regains total control over Vought and The Seven. He uses fear to keep Ashley, The Deep, and A-Train (Jessie T. Usher) solely loyal to him. It certainly didn’t help that The Deep’s ex-wife, Cassandra (Katy Breier), writes a tell-all memoir about her relationship to him; also, A-Train loses the respect of his brother, Nathan (Christian Keyes) after he kills Blue Hawk (Nick Wechsler) instead of letting Blue Hawk face justice for his attack. The Deep and A-Train have no one but Homelander.

Even with Homelander’s power, it wasn’t enough for Soldier Boy to give him the love that he craved; however, now he’s able to gain that through Ryan and his supporters. Homelander introduces Ryan to a crowd of his supporters. When an anti-Homelander protester accidentally hits Ryan with a can, Homelander kills the protester in front of the crowd. Though the crowd is initially stunned, they quickly applaud him for it. In Season 2, Homelander imagined killing an entire crowd of protesters, including Victoria Neuman; now he’s acted on his dark fantasy and not reprimanded for it. This validation fulfills his deep desires to be loved by his fans for who he really is, completing his destruction and rebirth arc that began in Season 2.

Not only does this final scene impact Homelander, but Ryan as well. Early in the finale, Ryan leaves Grace to be with Homelander; he does this after his father reminds him that Becca’s (Shantel VanSanten) death wasn’t his fault. This was something Becca made Butcher promise her as she lay dying in order to keep Ryan’s goodness alive. Even though Butcher protects Ryan from Soldier Boy at Vought Tower, Ryan is still hurt by Butcher when he blames Becca’s death on him. Once again, Ryan chooses to stay with his father. Now that Ryan has seen the acceptance he receives from Homelander’s fans, even after Homelander kills a man in front of them, the wheels begin to turn for Ryan and his path toward the dark side. Could he become a more evil version of Homelander, or is there still time for Butcher to save Ryan? Guess we’ll have to wait and see when Season 4 comes around.


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After Driving Again And More, Britney Spears Shares Her Latest Taste Of Post-Conservatorship Freedom




After Driving Again And More, Britney Spears Shares Her Latest Taste Of Post-Conservatorship Freedom

They say it’s the simple things in life that are the most extraordinary, and that’s likely particularly true if you’ve been denied access to those things for an extended period of time. After Britney Spears was released from the conservatorship she’d been under, the singer has been reintroducing herself to some of life’s simple pleasures. Last summer Spears was super pumped about regaining the freedom to drive, and in January the “Toxic” singer documented drinking her first glass of wine in over a decade. The newlywed continued to celebrate the post-conservatorship life by sharing her first trip to a bar.

Fans of the former pop singer are accustomed to seeing Britney Spears dancing and twirling and modeling different outfits at her and Sam Asghari’s new home. However, the “Toxic” singer took her followers on an exciting field trip, in which she and her assistant patronized a local drinking establishment. She shared her trip — and a sarcastic remark — on Instagram:

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As she and her assistant Victoria Asher apparently enjoyed a drink and an app, Britney Spears couldn’t help but throw a little shade at her family, remarking that she was “so so grateful” for not being allowed to have a cocktail for the 13 years after her father Jamie Spears took control of her life. In fact, the 40-year-old said in her post this is her first time to partake in such an adventure. In the video, she shared:

This is my first time at a bar. First time. I feel so fancy, and I feel so sophisticated.

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How ‘Yellowjackets’ Stars Survived Hollywood




How ‘Yellowjackets’ Stars Survived Hollywood

Sure, they may have eaten a person back in the day. But there are some things the grown women of Yellowjackets just wouldn’t do. On this, the actresses who play them — Tawny Cypress, Juliette Lewis, Melanie Lynskey and Christina Ricci — agree, as they gather in a backyard in L.A.’s Topanga Canyon in late July, just a few weeks before they start filming the second season of their breakout show.

The Showtime survival thriller, created and executive produced by Ashley Lyle and Bart Nickerson, earned seven Emmy nominations, including outstanding drama series and acting nominations for Lynskey and Ricci. The Yellowjackets storyline alternates between 1996 and the present day as it follows members of a high school girls soccer team whose plane crashes and strands them for 19 months in the wilderness, where they resort to cannibalism to survive.

Part of the show’s nostalgic appeal relies on its casting of these actresses, three of whom audiences knew as young women for their slyly offbeat roles in films like The Addams Family (Ricci), Cape Fear (Lewis) and Heavenly Creatures (Lynskey), to play the crash survivors as adults. In this conversation with THR, Cypress, Lewis, Lynskey and Ricci disclose their ’90s regrets, share what it means when you call an actress “quirky” and reveal how survival bonds women — including in the trenches of Hollywood.

Who here knew each other before the show?

MELANIE LYNSKEY (Points to Christina Ricci.) We knew each other a little bit. I went to a Nick Cave concert by myself, and Christina came up and —


CHRISTINA RICCI I was very excited to see you.

LYNSKEY So excited. We were having a lovely chat, and then she’s like, “Are you here by yourself?” She’s the coolest person of all time, and I was intimidated. I just felt embarrassed to say, “I’ve come to a concert by myself.” I was like 24 or something.

RICCI I was impressed because I couldn’t go anywhere by myself.

LYNSKEY I also went to see Clay Aiken by myself because nobody would come with me.

It’s surprising that none of you had worked together over the years.

JULIETTE LEWIS It’s wild when you’ve been around so long, and you sort of have a kindred connection to people. There’s certain actors you’re like, “Mmm, we’re not of the same tree,” and then there’s other actors you’re like, “Oh, yeah. We have some roots.”


Juliette, Melanie and Christina, all three of your Wikipedia entries say some version of, “Often plays quirky or offbeat characters.” What do those words mean to you?

LEWIS Real people, specific and unpredictable.

LYNSKEY I remember I got cast in a movie when I was like 21, and the description of the character before I auditioned was “Blah, blah, blah, the beautiful girl who sits next to him in school.” Then, at the table read, it had been changed to “Blah, blah, blah, cute and quirky.” I was like, “You don’t need to change it. Just keep it …” They’re like, “We better change this description or people will be like, wrong actress.” So, sometimes it feels … I don’t know. I never liked that word, “quirky.”

RICCI When you say that all of us had this description, that to me speaks to a past time, when, if you weren’t the leading-lady ingenue then you were quirky and offbeat. All right, so there’s two groups for actresses? In a way, I’m fine with being in the category I’m in because what it means to me is that I have made an effort in my career to do things that I feel like I haven’t seen before. So, in some ways, I like it. In other ways, I’m like, “Ugh.” It’s a little dismissive. A little cute and dismissive.

LEWIS We come from the ’90s where, when I had blond hair, I was the pretty airhead, and then I dyed my hair dark, and I was the wisecracking, sarcastic girl. But yeah, I think it’s really neat that we’ve all carved this path of range and specificity.

Isn’t another term for that “character actor”?


RICCI But “character actress” used to be something they used to describe an ugly woman.


RICCI Back in the late ’90s, my agents were always like, “We have to be so careful you don’t become a character actress. If we’re not careful, you’re going to end up just like Jennifer Jason Leigh.” I was like, “I like her.” They were so afraid of me not being a leading lady, of me not being sexually attractive to people. It was really the last thing I ever wanted, was for anyone to be attracted to me.

LEWIS My dad was a character actor. So to me, it was something that was super noble. It was a world of adventure and not limiting. I rebelled against the system, the PR system of being in some bizarre idea of beauty. I really revolted against that, for better or for worse. Crying in a bathroom at a photo shoot, like, “I won’t come out.” They want these doe-eyed looks. That’s for sure what I didn’t do in pictures, so I always looked slightly insane, which I prefer over, like, “Do you want to fuck me?”

Tawny, what was your sense of what the expectations were for you when you were starting out?

CYPRESS I’ve had a different row to hoe. I’ve spent my whole career doing shitty roles of the sassy one on the side. Honestly, growing up as an actor, I wanted to be an ingenue.


LEWIS Isn’t that funny? And I wanted to be sassy and opinionated.

CYPRESS I couldn’t be an ingenue. I just couldn’t. It’s just not in me, you know? I was never presented with those roles, ever, and I was like, “Oh, OK. That’s not who I am.” I sort of, growing older, have embraced my Jersey side, and I am who I am, and this is what you get.

LYNSKEY I started calling myself a character actor in interviews when I was really young because I think it was reclaiming the term or something. I think I just was like, “That’s what I am.” My agents had all that kind of intensity around it, too. I remember when I did Coyote Ugly

RICCI Oh my God, you got a piece in that? I went up for that, and I didn’t get it.

CYPRESS I did too.

LYNSKEY I played the best friend from Jersey. But the scrutiny that was on Piper [Perabo], who’s one of the coolest, smartest women, just the way people were talking about her body, talking about her appearance, focusing on what she was eating. All the girls had this regimen they had to go on. It was ridiculous. I was already starving myself and as thin as I could possibly be for this body, and I was still a [size] four. That was already people putting a lot of Spanx on me in wardrobe fittings and being very disappointed when they saw me, the costume designer being like, “Nobody told me there would be girls like you.” Really intense feedback about my physicality, my body, people doing my makeup and being like, “I’m just going to help you out by giving you a bit more of a jawline and stuff.” Just the feedback was constantly like, “You’re not beautiful. You’re not beautiful.” In your early 20s, so much of it is about beauty, and how people respond to you, and do people want to fuck you? Do people think you’re their best friend? Even the best friend thing, I started to be like, “I don’t want to do that too many times.”


Did you have to unlearn anything that people tried to teach you when you were starting out?

LEWIS I had developed such a survival mechanism to protect my autonomy, sort of, “You don’t own me. You don’t tell me my value. Only I do.” I was extremely self-critical — it still happens — of my work. It’s almost like a defense mechanism that no one could talk shit about me more than I can. There’s all these things that are wrapped up in how to survive a system. That’s what I’m unlearning today — to be softer. This is a really remarkable industry to be a part of. I feel honored to be a part of it and what it gave me, but I do still hold on to what it took from me in my youth.

Given what you all experienced coming into the industry, do you feel at all protective of the younger actresses who play the younger versions of your characters?

LYNSKEY (Begins to cry.) So much. I feel very protective. At the beginning of production, I sent them all an email, and I just was like, “Whatever you need, if you need a voice, if you need someone to go to the producers for you, whatever you need,” and they were kind of like, “Cool. Thanks.” They’re fine.

CYPRESS Totally fine. Jas [Jasmin Savoy Brown] was a boss on set. She’s like, “This is how we’re doing my hair. This is what we’re doing.”

RICCI They’re very much of a different generation.


CYPRESS I am protective of Jas in the fact that she is so sexually positive, which I love. She has taught me so much, just knowing her as a person. But I’m like a mama bear to her, or a big sister. I’m like, “What are you putting online right now?” She’s like, “Whatever. Whatever. This is life, man. I love myself.” I’m protective, but I’m also in awe of her, you know?

LEWIS But there is a thing I always want to say to young people: Cultivate other interests deeply so that you’re not getting all your life’s blood from this industry, or your self-worth.

Is there anything you miss about the ’90s?

LYNSKEY I have a lot of love letters from the ’90s.

RICCI Someone used to fax me love letters when he was on tour. I did not save them. I throw everything out. I had a specific thing when I was a child, that we would be punished by the things that we loved being destroyed. My husband, who is a much healthier individual, has gone back and found all my old magazine covers on Etsy because he thinks it’s horrible that I never saved them. As a child, I learned that this is going to be taken from me, so why save it anyway?

LYNSKEY That’s heartbreaking. Well, I saved everything because I’m basically an emotional hoarder. I have this literal suitcase, an old-fashioned suitcase.


RICCI This is very dark, but I would just like to go back to that age and do it over again and not make so many fucking mistakes. Honestly, I regret so much.

CYPRESS Me too. One thousand percent.

LEWIS Me too.

RICCI I’d like to go back to 1996 and be like, “All right … we had a practice run. It went OK, but it wasn’t really as great as we wanted it to be. We’re going to do this again.” People who are like, “I have no regrets.” What fucking magic life did you live?

LEWIS Where they go, “I don’t regret anything because that led up to this moment.” Really? The thing that could’ve put my dad in an early grave, I fucking regret it. Yes. I was very scary as a young teenage person.

CYPRESS Yeah. I hurt a lot of people growing up, and I wish that I didn’t. I was going through my memory box. It was my great-great-grandmother’s she brought over from Hungary. It’s huge, and it’s filled to the brim with everything from my life. I came across a note from high school. It was my first gay friend, and it broke my heart because he was like, “I want to thank you for not talking to me anymore and just cutting me off the way that you did. It made it hurt less.” I literally was crying, and I had to call him and be like, “I just came across this note, and I’m so sorry that I was that person to you.” When I think back, I think how wonderful our relationship was, but I was a shit, you know? I would definitely do so many things differently.


LEWIS I’ve had those moments where I turned into … Because I’ve been bullied, but when I was 11 and got in a fight with a girl, I was mean [the same way] how a girl was mean to me. I was really vicious.

LYNSKEY I think people without regrets are narcissists. I think they’re lying to themselves.

RICCI Denial is the only way to get up that river.

What did you all feel when you learned that Roe v. Wade was overturned?

RICCI It’s really horrible to be told so plainly what your value is.

LEWIS I wish the two factions can talk, like, “Hey, what do you do with a bad situation, poverty and drug addiction, and rape?” You have to have an option that is salvageable or is sustainable for the survival of a person, a woman who’s living.


CYPRESS I don’t really give a shit what your reason to have an abortion is. It’s your fucking body. I don’t really fucking care. You don’t want to be a mom, right? That’s your fucking decision. Look, we can put morals on it and say, “Well, only when you’re raped, or only if it’s …” It’s like no, dude. It’s either in or out. We’re either telling women what to do with their bodies or we let them have their own choice. I am of the mind, choice. I’m not going to judge you for making that decision.

LYNSKEY And there seems to be this general lack of compassion and empathy that’s just growing and growing. There’s so much hatred, and people are unable to look at another person’s life and go, “Oh, you know, that’s an untenable situation,” or even, “That’s a difficult situation.” There’s no grace given to anybody else. There’s no empathy. You don’t get to make decisions for somebody else. You don’t know what’s right for them.

Is there a place for TV and film in that conversation?

CYPRESS I mean, that’s what TV and film do. That’s what art is. On Yellowjackets, let’s talk about Shauna’s baby in the woods, you know? Yeah. I think we have a lot of room to speak on this subject, and I hope we do.

Did anybody have their kids on set for season one?

LYNSKEY (Points to Ricci.) We did.


RICCI And I was pregnant. I didn’t tell anyone but these ladies that I was pregnant for six months. When we started, I was six weeks pregnant. It was difficult. There were so many times where I was like, “Ooh, when they find out I’m pregnant, and they made me sit in this smoky room all day. When they realize that they made me stand for eight hours, and I’m pregnant, and I have this horrible sciatica, and it’s 100 degrees, oh, they’re going to feel so bad.” They didn’t feel bad at all. But anyway, it was fine. In fact, it would’ve been helpful if I was playing a more emotional character because I can give a real good performance when I’m pregnant, real emo.

How would you finish the sentence, “Yellowjackets is really about …”?



CYPRESS Friendship.

RICCI Haunting, the way trauma haunts you. The way you can never escape. The way it twists people in different ways.


LEWIS Aberrant survival tactics.

We know that these characters have done a bunch of aberrant things, as you say, including cannibalism. But do you have in your mind an idea that, “OK, she may have eaten another human being, but she would never do this“?

RICCI I know when they confront me because I’m like, “OK, she wouldn’t do that.” Misty wouldn’t drink that drink. Originally, in the script, she was drinking a Brandy Alexander, and I said, “No, Misty would drink a chocolate martini.” I have rules and stuff for her in my head, and they do conflict with the writers sometimes. I don’t think she actually is interested in men, at all. I think she does it because she’s bored, or because she thinks that’s what she’s supposed to do. Then, she’s also realized that she can have a lot of fun trying to trick them into having sex with her when they don’t want to. It’s like men will kind of know that you don’t want to have sex with them, but if they can get you to have sex with them, they won.

LEWIS It’s a power thing.

RICCI Misty’s way of doing it is through this really horrible manipulation, making him feel guilty and having sex with her while feeling guilty, which would be a terrible experience.

When you have a different perspective on your character than the writers, what do you do?


RICCI That’s part of the thing with TV that I’ve learned now, being involved in a production but not being one of the EPs, so you aren’t a part of creating what people do. “OK, they wrote this scene. I have to play this scene. If she was in this situation, how the fuck would she be in this situation, and why would she be?” Then, you don’t have to tell other people what you come up with. They can find out about it later when you do press.

Does anybody else have a line in their mind that their character wouldn’t cross?

LYNSKEY I had one. There was something written into a script where I was going on a date with my lover, and they had me going into my daughter’s bedroom and taking her underwear, which was just not practical because I wouldn’t fit it. She’s little. But also, ew. I think there was something, apparently, somewhere, people liked the thing in the pilot where I’m masturbating in my daughter’s bedroom. I was like, “Can that just be an isolated incident? I don’t want it to be a theme.” So I just was like, “I don’t want to do that.” They were great about it.

LEWIS It comes, I think, with experience and respect, that they appreciate if you have a point of view. I have an “anything goes” stamp on me, which they all know. But I have strong ideas, especially about my trajectory in midlife. I’ve looked at Natural Born Killers recently, and I’m like, “Jesus.” Thank goodness I had a partner like Woody Harrelson, but it is so sexual. No one forced me into that. I was a young nihilist who didn’t give a fuck, and I felt comfortable with Woody, and I liked the material. But nowadays, I’m very particular. So, they had written a sex scene, and I was like, “I don’t know. I don’t know that she even gets off. I don’t know that she even can have orgasms.” That’s how deep I went. So it was more like, is she doing something to get something? At the end of the day, I just didn’t even think she fucks, sorry to be so graphic, at this juncture that you saw in season one. I think she might’ve had relationships with all of them in the wilderness. I don’t know if they’re going to write it, but that’s what I’d like to think of Natalie.

LYNSKEY That’s what I think too.

RICCI What? I never thought of that. Who would they be making out with? I guess each other.


The finale hints that there may be additional Yellowjackets who survived into adulthood. Have actors been cast for those roles?

LEWIS Wait, Melanie, didn’t you say that on our chain, that someone we like is cast to be … (At this point there is meaningful eye contact among the four women.)

RICCI We don’t know for sure. That’s what we’ve heard was close to happening.

LYNSKEY We don’t know anything.

On season one, you were making this show under the radar. Now there’s so much fan speculation. Does that change the way you approach the work?

RICCI There’s more pressure going into season two.


CYPRESS Have you guys also had that feeling of like, “Can I do this? Is it going to be good, the second season? Am I going to fuck this character up?”

LYNSKEY I have those fears.

RICCI Me too, but because TV is so fast, and you have so little time with the information, the process of talking about the show afterward helps you to evolve your take on your character. To understand things that were intended with the character that maybe weren’t clear originally because you get to hear the EPs talk about it. I’m going to make changes in the next season based on what I have come to realize through all this talking.

Like what?

RICCI Well, that’s a secret.

How much do you want to know about the path that your character is on?


CYPRESS Fuck, I want to know everything. I sit there, and when I think about the show, I think, “What the fuck are they going to do with this character?” There’s so many different parts to her right now. The dog thing. She’s now a senator. There may be an old love coming back, you know? I’m like, “How are they going to do this?” I just want to know.

LYNSKEY Now you’re a full-time dog killer.

RICCI I didn’t even know that you were supposed to be the one that killed the dog.


RICCI I thought, “Oh, well maybe somebody broke in.”

LYNSKEY That could still be, right?


CYPRESS Wait, give me more to think about.

So you don’t go to the writers and say, “To be clear, did I kill the dog?”

CYPRESS Oh, we do. They just say, “Mmm.”

RICCI “We don’t know.”

CYPRESS But they do know.

RICCI I don’t think they’re trying to control us with no information or anything. Sometimes, they don’t want to commit to something that hasn’t been necessarily set in stone. I do find it frustrating to not know, and we’re never able to know fully. I have decided to learn how to function with knowing nothing.


Interview edited for length and clarity.

This story first appeared in the Aug. 3 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine. Click here to subscribe.

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James Gunn Addresses Peacemaker Future Amid Batgirl Cancelation




James Gunn Addresses Peacemaker Future Amid Batgirl Cancelation

Shockwaves from Warner Bros.’s cancelation of Batgirl have had many fans questioning the possibility of other DC-connected projects following suit. Amid outcries from fans of Batgirl, Michael Keaton, Brendan Fraser, and even Snyderverse fans who are always eager to picket Warner Bros., Peacemaker fans started asking James Gunn whether there was any possibility that his DC work was going to suffer amid the company’s cost-cutting exercise. Ironically, considering the history that led James Gunn to work with DCEU characters, it seems that the director and his shows are the only ones who are “safe.”

What seems like a lifetime ago, James Gunn was all set to start work on Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 for Disney and Marvel Studios when some old Twitter posts led to him being unceremoniously sacked. By the time Disney backtracked on their firing, Gunn was already committed to directing The Suicide Squad for Warner Bros., which is why Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 has taken so long to arrive. Now, during all the chaos at Warner Bros., it appears that Gunn is not worried at all about the second season of Peacemaker getting the ax. When asked if the show was safe, Gunn simply replied:


“Yes, guys, calm down.”

That is a relief for fans of the small sub-universe Gunn is building inside the DCEU, which along with The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker, is set to include at least another unannounced project and be linked to the Amanda Waller series that is in development. At least that side of the franchise doesn’t appear to be going anywhere.

Related: Peacemaker: Will More Suicide Squad Members Appear in Season 2?

Is Warner Bros. Still Planning on Rebooting The DCEU?

There have been rumors of a “soft-reboot” coming to the DCEU for a long time, and while it seems at times like Warner Bros. is heading in that direction, they have constantly denied any such intention. During San Diego Comic-Con, the entire focus of the Warner Bros. live-action DC panel was on Black Adam and Shazam! Fury of the Gods. Both of these movies have their small links to the wider DCEU, and once again, Warner Bros. seemed to be causing confusion by including a Justice League montage within the Shazam sequel while at the same time professing that they are not revisiting that particular DCEU set up in any way.

One thing clear from Dwayne Johnson’s appearance at SDCC is that he believes that Black Adam is setting the tone for a new DCEU, and based on everything else that is happening, he could be right. While there is no way of telling exactly where the franchise will be heading beyond The Flash in 2023, with new additional entries like Wonder Woman 3 constantly being stuck in limbo, it has been made clear that some big changes are being made in regards to the DCEU and fans will be hoping that those changes bring some kind of consistency to the franchise before it ends up crashing down around itself.


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