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15 Best Couples In the CWVerse, Ranked



15 Best Couples In the CWVerse, Ranked

On the latest seasons of The CWVerse, romance is everywhere. New couples have been teased on Batwoman, DC’s Legends of Tomorrow, and The Flash, but are they meant to be? We’ll find out in time.

A superhero property isn’t complete without a romantic sub-plot, and The CWVerse is no different. The first season of Arrow was all about Oliver Queen’s (Stephen Amell) desperate attempts to win back the love of his life, Laurel Lance (Katie Cassidy). That pretty much set the foundation for how central love would be to the franchise. There have been couples aplenty since, and while some of these pairings have added high stakes to the narrative, occasionally, the romance was to the detriment of a character.

Oliver Queen and Felicity Smoak (Emily Bett Rickards) were a popular fan ship who became canon on Arrow, but Felicity’s characterization diminished almost completely once she became ‘the girlfriend’. Other popular pairings like the above-mentioned Oliver and Laurel as well as Kara Danvers/Supergirl (Melissa Benoist) and Mon-El (Chris Wood) were quintessential toxic relationships. Mon-El accepting that he was a terrible boyfriend was even written into the third season of Supergirl. Even when the main romances haven’t been toxic, some of them have lacked chemistry. Nate Heywood’s (Nick Zano) romances with Amaya Jiwe (Maisie Richardson-Sellers) and Zari Tomaz (Tala Ashe) left many DC’s Legends of Tomorrow viewers scratching their heads. Both women deserved better than to be shoehorned into half-baked romantic sub-plots. The writers are still able to string Nate and Zari’s relationship along, but it’s hard to be invested in a pairing no one saw coming.


As we take a trip down memory lane to revisit some of the greatest romances in The CWVerse, be warned that some of your favorites may not have made the cut. For the purpose of this list, we’re focusing on romances between main or recurring characters, not every romance ever featured in The CWVerse (otherwise we’d be here forever). So, which love birds are you rooting for?

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15. Caitlin Snow and Ronnie Raymond (The Flash)

Dr. Caitlin Snow (Danielle Panabaker) and Ronnie Raymond (Robbie Amell) worked together at S.T.A.R. Labs where they fell in love and later became engaged. Unfortunately, Ronnie was presumed dead after the particle accelerator accident but he’d actually turned into the superhero Firestorm. When they were reunited, Caitlin and Ronnie were obviously still head over heels in love with each other, but also respected one another as professionals. The little we got to see of Caitlin and Ronnie’s relationship showcased what a loving couple they were and the lost potential of their future together. Even after eight seasons, Caitlin still talks about Ronnie as her great love and it’s easy to believe her. Their romance may have been brief, but Caitlin and Ronnie proved that sometimes it’s better to have loved and lost, than to never have loved at all.


14. Roy Harper and Thea Queen (Arrow)

Oliver’s younger sister Thea Queen (Willa Holland) was a wild child till her bag was stolen by Roy Harper (Colton Haynes). They were the classic rich girl-poor boy combination at the start of their relationship but grew to be much more than that. The pair gave each other a whole new perspective on life, and that’s what makes them so special. Thea and Roy both risked life and limb to save and protect each other. What could have been a forgettable teen romance ended up being a lot darker because of their shared experiences becoming superheroes and dealing with the consequences of that life. Neither character received the development needed for viewers to be completely invested in their relationship, but by the end of Arrow they had earned their happily-ever-after.

13. Sara Lance and Nyssa al Ghul (Arrow)

Sara Lance (Caity Lotz) and Nyssa al Ghul (Katrina Law) had very little screen time, but their romance was a huge step forward for queer representation in the superhero genre. Viewers were left to intuit much of their relationship, but Nyssa was there to save and protect Sara when Sara had no one else. Nyssa rescued Sara from the island Lian Yu and nursed her back to health. When Sara joined the League of Assassins, Nyssa was smitten by Sara’s courage. Nyssa’s love for Sara was never-ending, even when Sara chose to be with Oliver, and especially after Sara was killed. Admittedly, they had their toxic moments, which was expected given Nyssa’s League upbringing, but that doesn’t negate how integral their brief relationship was. The best part was how Sara’s family accepted the relationship, which in itself was a ground-breaking moment in pop culture.


12. Brainy and Nia Nal (Supergirl)

Nia Nal (Nicole Maines) was the first transgender superhero played by a transgender actor. She joined Supergirl in Season 4 and it became obvious that her quirky geekiness was a match for Querl Dox/Brainiac-5’s (Jesse Rath) awkward nerdiness. They met when Nia stood up to bullies terrorizing Brainy. Though they didn’t always get the development and screentime that they deserved, Nia and Brainy’s relationship was a positive step towards normalizing transgender romances on screen. The best moments in the final season were the ones focusing on Nia helping Brainy get over his anxiety and stress, while he encouraged her to believe in herself. Brainy even sacrificed his destiny to be with Nia in the Supergirl finale, because she is his “dream girl.” These two are a cute couple who bonded over their mutual love for pop culture and their love of being superheroes.

11. Alex Danvers and Maggie Sawyer (Supergirl)

The Supergirl showrunners made the bold decision to write a coming out story for Kara’s sister Alex Danvers (Chyler Leigh) in Season 2, a realisation that wouldn’t have happened had Alex not met Detective Maggie Sawyer (Floriana Lima). Maggie was so comfortable in her sexuality, it helped Alex come to terms with her own. Maggie was the friend to lean on before becoming Alex’s girlfriend. They were a refreshing change in the romantic landscape and their first season together was a successful representation of a lesbian romance. Unfortunately, the writers chose to create a contrived wedge between them in the third season, mostly to accommodate Lima’s decreased screentime. Though their relationship fizzled, without Maggie, Alex wouldn’t be the incredibly happy person she ended up being when Supergirl ended.

10. Zari Tarazi and John Constantine (DC’s Legends of Tomorrow)

The CWVerse is excellent at making oddball couples work, and Zari Tarazi (Ashe) and John Constantine (Matt Ryan) personify that description. She’s a prim and proper social media influencer from the future; he’s a gruff master of the dark arts. Zari grew up sheltered; John had a rough life. We didn’t see this pairing coming but were instantly won over by John and Zari’s convincing performance as Romeo and Juliet. Their chemistry was off the charts and even though their relationship started off in quintessential rom-com fashion, they grew to be a compelling couple. They didn’t try to change each other despite being so different, but they always built each other up. John and Zari’s relationship added layers of care and understanding that would have otherwise been missing in their characterizations. In the end, circumstances meant that they couldn’t be together, and we’ll miss this dynamic duo.


9. Clark Kent and Lois Lane (Superman & Lois)

The first couple of DC Comics made a return to the small screen on Supergirl before headlining their own show. On Superman & Lois we see the couple as never before—a married couple navigating domestic life while juggling parenthood and their work commitments. Clark Kent (Tyler Hoechlin) and Lois Lane (Elizabeth Tulloch) are settled in their relationship and that’s the best part about this couple. Their love is obvious in how much they know about each other and support one another. The writers have captured domestic bliss with these two—Clark Kent is an adorable husband who thinks the world of Lois, and Lois is a pillar of strength whenever Clark’s called away to be Superman. The two of them have distinct personalities but a shared history that makes each interaction that much richer. We can’t wait to see how much they grow over the seasons.

8. Ray Palmer and Nora Darhk (DC’s Legends of Tomorrow)

Ray Palmer (Brandon Routh) was a boy scout superhero; Nora Darhk (Courtney Ford) was the vessel for a demon. Their first close encounter involved failed attempts to kill each other. Who would have thought these two would make one of the most adorable couples in The CWVerse? Trust the DC’s Legends of Tomorrow writers to make us cheer for this odd pair. Ray and Nora became closer when he was essentially her and her father Damien Darhk’s (Neal McDonough) prisoner. Ray always saw the good in her and desperately wanted to free her from her destiny. Eventually, the two of them were able to escape and become Legends together. These two were a match made in social awkwardness. It helped that actors Routh and Ford are married in real life and their easy chemistry leaped off the screen. Every scene with them together just made us go “awww.”

7. Joe West and Cecile Horton (The Flash)

Romance isn’t just for the young ones. Joe West (Jesse L. Martin) was a widow and Cecile Horton (Danielle Nicolet) was a single mom when they met. He was with the Central City Police Department; she was the District Attorney. Their paths crossed while on a case and they became friends. Joe and Cecile’s relationship evolved slowly into a romance and it’s powered by that initial friendship. While Joe is the father figure to Team Flash, Cecile is more the fun aunt and the two add a whole new dynamic to the team with their unique personalities. Though Joe and Cecile are often in the background of the story, the writers have cleverly chosen to allow both the characters to grow as separate individuals, instead of always being considered a single unit. How much they care for each other is obvious from little glances and dialogues. Joe and Cecile prove you don’t have to flaunt it when you have it.


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6. Jefferson Pierce and Lynn Stewart (Black Lightning)

Jefferson Pierce (Cress Williams) and Lynn Stewart (Christine Adams) were happily married before Jefferson’s superpowers took a toll on him, and his marriage. Lynn walked out before later reuniting when Black Lightning was back. This couple were naturally a team, especially when it came to co-parenting. Jefferson and Lynn weren’t always a united front—he was a school principal and a superhero, she was a scientist worried about Jefferson’s powers literally killing him. They sometimes found themselves on opposing sides, but they weren’t adversaries. They fought hardest when they were the most scared for each other, and their daughters. In the final season, Jefferson and Lynn eventually went to couples’ counseling to work through their problems much of which came from dealing with the non-stop trauma of being a superhero family, Lynn’s recovery and their lack of communication. They got through it and realized they were stronger together. In the season finale, to the delight of their family and the show’s viewers, wedding bells were ringing again for Jefferson and Lynn. A happy ending that was a long time coming.

5. John Diggle and Lyla Michaels (Arrow)

Another couple who needed two tries to make it work is John Diggle (David Ramsey) and Lyla Michaels (Audrey Marie Anderson). Dig and Lyla met while serving in Afghanistan and they were married while still on tour. Though their marriage didn’t survive civilian life, Dig and Lyla were reunited while he was part of Team Arrow, and Lyla was a high-ranking official at A.R.G.U.S. The two of them haven’t always seen eye-to-eye; Dig has a strong moral core that doesn’t waver, irrespective of his mission. Lyla has stooped to questionable means to get what she needs. They’ve fought about it, reconciled and in the end, found the middle ground needed to be happily married parents to their children. It’s hard to argue how much they love each other considering Dig allowed himself to be arrested in Russia once just so that he could free Lyla and he has seemingly given up the opportunity to be a Green Lantern to remain with his family. And Lyla offered to work with the Monitor, Mar Novu (LaMonica Garrett), to ensure her family was safe. Lyla is the only one who calls Dig ‘Johnny’ and that reflects a playfulness to their relationship that feels natural and understated.


4. Barry Allen and Iris West (The Flash)

Barry Allen (Grant Gustin) and Iris West (Candice Patton) are a long-standing couple from the comics, but they took some time getting together on The Flash. Iris was in a different relationship when the show began, but Barry had been smitten with her for years. Despite being the fastest man alive, taking it slow was how Barry finally won Iris over. Ever since the showrunners expanded Iris’ characterization, she and Barry have been a power couple in The CWVerse, leading Team Flash from the front. They’re not a cutesy pair as much as they are homely and comfortable. They’ve known each other since they were children, and they were both raised by Joe West, that commonality is an undercurrent to how convincing their relationship is on screen. Barry and Iris continue to lean on each other for all the big—and small—decisions. They aren’t perfect, but which couple is? The show has reached eight seasons, and Barry and Iris feel like they’re going to be together forever. After all, Iris is Barry’s lightning rod, and as Barry sang to Iris when he proposed to her, he’ll always come “running home to [her].”

3. Anissa Pierce and Grace Choi (Black Lightning)

Anissa Pierce (Nafessa Williams) was a bit of cad when she was first introduced on Black Lightning. She was in a less-than-happy relationship when Grace Choi (Chantal Thuy) caught her eye. We can’t blame Anissa for immediately turning tail. Anissa and Grace’s romance had a few more ups and downs than most of the others on this list. They endured tough times together in the beginning—Grace was a meta-human with shapeshifting abilities that were triggered during moments of extreme stress, and she battled that with Anissa’s help. Anissa was also discovering her powers at the time, and Grace was beside her as she became the superhero Thunder, then Blackbird. Later, when Grace fell into a coma, Anissa refused to leave her side, but she didn’t wallow in her grief. Eventually, the two of them were a force to be reckoned with in the field when they tag-teamed as a vigilante duo in the final season of the show. Though Grace wasn’t given much screentime in the first few seasons of Black Lightning, the chemistry between the two characters was always electric.

2. Alex Danvers and Kelly Olsen (Supergirl)

After Alex Danvers and Maggie Sawyer broke up, it seemed like love had eluded Alex for good, but then came Kelly Olsen (Azie Tesfai), sister of James (Mehcad Brooks). A psychologist and former soldier, Kelly and Alex had an instant connection. They met during a particularly stressful time in their lives—James was dying after being shot—and their bond was forged in fire. They supported each other, and most importantly listened to each other. The reason their relationship has lasted is because they have similar goals, which they discussed prior to popping the question. Alex and Kelly’s love story was a well-deserved one for both the characters. They had suffered loss and death in their lives and they needed a win. The fact that they knew each other so well was especially obvious in the final season of Supergirl. Both Alex and Kelly had the idea of booking Al’s Bar to propose to the other, and they chose the venue because they both realized that was where they had fallen in love with each other. In the end, they rode off into the sunset with their adopted daughter Esme.


1. Sara Lance and Ava Sharpe (DC’s Legends of Tomorrow)

Sara Lance and Ava Sharpe (Jes Macallan) are co-captains of the Waverider and co-captains in life. They personify the old adage, opposites attract, but Sara’s chaotic leadership has been a perfect foil for Ava’s no-nonsense rule-following. The two of them grated against each other when they first met, but as we all know, in pop culture bickering is the first step to love. Watching these two characters fall in love and stick together through thick and thin has been an absolute joy. Once, Sara was the first—and only—queer character in The CWVerse, and now she’s happily married and part of a renaissance of queer representation in superhero properties. The best part of Sara and Ava’s romance has been how easy it is. Sara was guarded about her emotions but now she openly admits to her mistakes and being afraid. Ava only knew how to do her job, but when her world unraveled when she learned she was a clone, it was Sara who reminded Ava that she was still an individual. They’re time-travelers who have a blast going on missions together, worrying about each other, and solving problems together. They are true couple goals!


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After Driving Again And More, Britney Spears Shares Her Latest Taste Of Post-Conservatorship Freedom




After Driving Again And More, Britney Spears Shares Her Latest Taste Of Post-Conservatorship Freedom

They say it’s the simple things in life that are the most extraordinary, and that’s likely particularly true if you’ve been denied access to those things for an extended period of time. After Britney Spears was released from the conservatorship she’d been under, the singer has been reintroducing herself to some of life’s simple pleasures. Last summer Spears was super pumped about regaining the freedom to drive, and in January the “Toxic” singer documented drinking her first glass of wine in over a decade. The newlywed continued to celebrate the post-conservatorship life by sharing her first trip to a bar.

Fans of the former pop singer are accustomed to seeing Britney Spears dancing and twirling and modeling different outfits at her and Sam Asghari’s new home. However, the “Toxic” singer took her followers on an exciting field trip, in which she and her assistant patronized a local drinking establishment. She shared her trip — and a sarcastic remark — on Instagram:

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As she and her assistant Victoria Asher apparently enjoyed a drink and an app, Britney Spears couldn’t help but throw a little shade at her family, remarking that she was “so so grateful” for not being allowed to have a cocktail for the 13 years after her father Jamie Spears took control of her life. In fact, the 40-year-old said in her post this is her first time to partake in such an adventure. In the video, she shared:

This is my first time at a bar. First time. I feel so fancy, and I feel so sophisticated.

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How ‘Yellowjackets’ Stars Survived Hollywood




How ‘Yellowjackets’ Stars Survived Hollywood

Sure, they may have eaten a person back in the day. But there are some things the grown women of Yellowjackets just wouldn’t do. On this, the actresses who play them — Tawny Cypress, Juliette Lewis, Melanie Lynskey and Christina Ricci — agree, as they gather in a backyard in L.A.’s Topanga Canyon in late July, just a few weeks before they start filming the second season of their breakout show.

The Showtime survival thriller, created and executive produced by Ashley Lyle and Bart Nickerson, earned seven Emmy nominations, including outstanding drama series and acting nominations for Lynskey and Ricci. The Yellowjackets storyline alternates between 1996 and the present day as it follows members of a high school girls soccer team whose plane crashes and strands them for 19 months in the wilderness, where they resort to cannibalism to survive.

Part of the show’s nostalgic appeal relies on its casting of these actresses, three of whom audiences knew as young women for their slyly offbeat roles in films like The Addams Family (Ricci), Cape Fear (Lewis) and Heavenly Creatures (Lynskey), to play the crash survivors as adults. In this conversation with THR, Cypress, Lewis, Lynskey and Ricci disclose their ’90s regrets, share what it means when you call an actress “quirky” and reveal how survival bonds women — including in the trenches of Hollywood.

Who here knew each other before the show?

MELANIE LYNSKEY (Points to Christina Ricci.) We knew each other a little bit. I went to a Nick Cave concert by myself, and Christina came up and —


CHRISTINA RICCI I was very excited to see you.

LYNSKEY So excited. We were having a lovely chat, and then she’s like, “Are you here by yourself?” She’s the coolest person of all time, and I was intimidated. I just felt embarrassed to say, “I’ve come to a concert by myself.” I was like 24 or something.

RICCI I was impressed because I couldn’t go anywhere by myself.

LYNSKEY I also went to see Clay Aiken by myself because nobody would come with me.

It’s surprising that none of you had worked together over the years.

JULIETTE LEWIS It’s wild when you’ve been around so long, and you sort of have a kindred connection to people. There’s certain actors you’re like, “Mmm, we’re not of the same tree,” and then there’s other actors you’re like, “Oh, yeah. We have some roots.”


Juliette, Melanie and Christina, all three of your Wikipedia entries say some version of, “Often plays quirky or offbeat characters.” What do those words mean to you?

LEWIS Real people, specific and unpredictable.

LYNSKEY I remember I got cast in a movie when I was like 21, and the description of the character before I auditioned was “Blah, blah, blah, the beautiful girl who sits next to him in school.” Then, at the table read, it had been changed to “Blah, blah, blah, cute and quirky.” I was like, “You don’t need to change it. Just keep it …” They’re like, “We better change this description or people will be like, wrong actress.” So, sometimes it feels … I don’t know. I never liked that word, “quirky.”

RICCI When you say that all of us had this description, that to me speaks to a past time, when, if you weren’t the leading-lady ingenue then you were quirky and offbeat. All right, so there’s two groups for actresses? In a way, I’m fine with being in the category I’m in because what it means to me is that I have made an effort in my career to do things that I feel like I haven’t seen before. So, in some ways, I like it. In other ways, I’m like, “Ugh.” It’s a little dismissive. A little cute and dismissive.

LEWIS We come from the ’90s where, when I had blond hair, I was the pretty airhead, and then I dyed my hair dark, and I was the wisecracking, sarcastic girl. But yeah, I think it’s really neat that we’ve all carved this path of range and specificity.

Isn’t another term for that “character actor”?


RICCI But “character actress” used to be something they used to describe an ugly woman.


RICCI Back in the late ’90s, my agents were always like, “We have to be so careful you don’t become a character actress. If we’re not careful, you’re going to end up just like Jennifer Jason Leigh.” I was like, “I like her.” They were so afraid of me not being a leading lady, of me not being sexually attractive to people. It was really the last thing I ever wanted, was for anyone to be attracted to me.

LEWIS My dad was a character actor. So to me, it was something that was super noble. It was a world of adventure and not limiting. I rebelled against the system, the PR system of being in some bizarre idea of beauty. I really revolted against that, for better or for worse. Crying in a bathroom at a photo shoot, like, “I won’t come out.” They want these doe-eyed looks. That’s for sure what I didn’t do in pictures, so I always looked slightly insane, which I prefer over, like, “Do you want to fuck me?”

Tawny, what was your sense of what the expectations were for you when you were starting out?

CYPRESS I’ve had a different row to hoe. I’ve spent my whole career doing shitty roles of the sassy one on the side. Honestly, growing up as an actor, I wanted to be an ingenue.


LEWIS Isn’t that funny? And I wanted to be sassy and opinionated.

CYPRESS I couldn’t be an ingenue. I just couldn’t. It’s just not in me, you know? I was never presented with those roles, ever, and I was like, “Oh, OK. That’s not who I am.” I sort of, growing older, have embraced my Jersey side, and I am who I am, and this is what you get.

LYNSKEY I started calling myself a character actor in interviews when I was really young because I think it was reclaiming the term or something. I think I just was like, “That’s what I am.” My agents had all that kind of intensity around it, too. I remember when I did Coyote Ugly

RICCI Oh my God, you got a piece in that? I went up for that, and I didn’t get it.

CYPRESS I did too.

LYNSKEY I played the best friend from Jersey. But the scrutiny that was on Piper [Perabo], who’s one of the coolest, smartest women, just the way people were talking about her body, talking about her appearance, focusing on what she was eating. All the girls had this regimen they had to go on. It was ridiculous. I was already starving myself and as thin as I could possibly be for this body, and I was still a [size] four. That was already people putting a lot of Spanx on me in wardrobe fittings and being very disappointed when they saw me, the costume designer being like, “Nobody told me there would be girls like you.” Really intense feedback about my physicality, my body, people doing my makeup and being like, “I’m just going to help you out by giving you a bit more of a jawline and stuff.” Just the feedback was constantly like, “You’re not beautiful. You’re not beautiful.” In your early 20s, so much of it is about beauty, and how people respond to you, and do people want to fuck you? Do people think you’re their best friend? Even the best friend thing, I started to be like, “I don’t want to do that too many times.”


Did you have to unlearn anything that people tried to teach you when you were starting out?

LEWIS I had developed such a survival mechanism to protect my autonomy, sort of, “You don’t own me. You don’t tell me my value. Only I do.” I was extremely self-critical — it still happens — of my work. It’s almost like a defense mechanism that no one could talk shit about me more than I can. There’s all these things that are wrapped up in how to survive a system. That’s what I’m unlearning today — to be softer. This is a really remarkable industry to be a part of. I feel honored to be a part of it and what it gave me, but I do still hold on to what it took from me in my youth.

Given what you all experienced coming into the industry, do you feel at all protective of the younger actresses who play the younger versions of your characters?

LYNSKEY (Begins to cry.) So much. I feel very protective. At the beginning of production, I sent them all an email, and I just was like, “Whatever you need, if you need a voice, if you need someone to go to the producers for you, whatever you need,” and they were kind of like, “Cool. Thanks.” They’re fine.

CYPRESS Totally fine. Jas [Jasmin Savoy Brown] was a boss on set. She’s like, “This is how we’re doing my hair. This is what we’re doing.”

RICCI They’re very much of a different generation.


CYPRESS I am protective of Jas in the fact that she is so sexually positive, which I love. She has taught me so much, just knowing her as a person. But I’m like a mama bear to her, or a big sister. I’m like, “What are you putting online right now?” She’s like, “Whatever. Whatever. This is life, man. I love myself.” I’m protective, but I’m also in awe of her, you know?

LEWIS But there is a thing I always want to say to young people: Cultivate other interests deeply so that you’re not getting all your life’s blood from this industry, or your self-worth.

Is there anything you miss about the ’90s?

LYNSKEY I have a lot of love letters from the ’90s.

RICCI Someone used to fax me love letters when he was on tour. I did not save them. I throw everything out. I had a specific thing when I was a child, that we would be punished by the things that we loved being destroyed. My husband, who is a much healthier individual, has gone back and found all my old magazine covers on Etsy because he thinks it’s horrible that I never saved them. As a child, I learned that this is going to be taken from me, so why save it anyway?

LYNSKEY That’s heartbreaking. Well, I saved everything because I’m basically an emotional hoarder. I have this literal suitcase, an old-fashioned suitcase.


RICCI This is very dark, but I would just like to go back to that age and do it over again and not make so many fucking mistakes. Honestly, I regret so much.

CYPRESS Me too. One thousand percent.

LEWIS Me too.

RICCI I’d like to go back to 1996 and be like, “All right … we had a practice run. It went OK, but it wasn’t really as great as we wanted it to be. We’re going to do this again.” People who are like, “I have no regrets.” What fucking magic life did you live?

LEWIS Where they go, “I don’t regret anything because that led up to this moment.” Really? The thing that could’ve put my dad in an early grave, I fucking regret it. Yes. I was very scary as a young teenage person.

CYPRESS Yeah. I hurt a lot of people growing up, and I wish that I didn’t. I was going through my memory box. It was my great-great-grandmother’s she brought over from Hungary. It’s huge, and it’s filled to the brim with everything from my life. I came across a note from high school. It was my first gay friend, and it broke my heart because he was like, “I want to thank you for not talking to me anymore and just cutting me off the way that you did. It made it hurt less.” I literally was crying, and I had to call him and be like, “I just came across this note, and I’m so sorry that I was that person to you.” When I think back, I think how wonderful our relationship was, but I was a shit, you know? I would definitely do so many things differently.


LEWIS I’ve had those moments where I turned into … Because I’ve been bullied, but when I was 11 and got in a fight with a girl, I was mean [the same way] how a girl was mean to me. I was really vicious.

LYNSKEY I think people without regrets are narcissists. I think they’re lying to themselves.

RICCI Denial is the only way to get up that river.

What did you all feel when you learned that Roe v. Wade was overturned?

RICCI It’s really horrible to be told so plainly what your value is.

LEWIS I wish the two factions can talk, like, “Hey, what do you do with a bad situation, poverty and drug addiction, and rape?” You have to have an option that is salvageable or is sustainable for the survival of a person, a woman who’s living.


CYPRESS I don’t really give a shit what your reason to have an abortion is. It’s your fucking body. I don’t really fucking care. You don’t want to be a mom, right? That’s your fucking decision. Look, we can put morals on it and say, “Well, only when you’re raped, or only if it’s …” It’s like no, dude. It’s either in or out. We’re either telling women what to do with their bodies or we let them have their own choice. I am of the mind, choice. I’m not going to judge you for making that decision.

LYNSKEY And there seems to be this general lack of compassion and empathy that’s just growing and growing. There’s so much hatred, and people are unable to look at another person’s life and go, “Oh, you know, that’s an untenable situation,” or even, “That’s a difficult situation.” There’s no grace given to anybody else. There’s no empathy. You don’t get to make decisions for somebody else. You don’t know what’s right for them.

Is there a place for TV and film in that conversation?

CYPRESS I mean, that’s what TV and film do. That’s what art is. On Yellowjackets, let’s talk about Shauna’s baby in the woods, you know? Yeah. I think we have a lot of room to speak on this subject, and I hope we do.

Did anybody have their kids on set for season one?

LYNSKEY (Points to Ricci.) We did.


RICCI And I was pregnant. I didn’t tell anyone but these ladies that I was pregnant for six months. When we started, I was six weeks pregnant. It was difficult. There were so many times where I was like, “Ooh, when they find out I’m pregnant, and they made me sit in this smoky room all day. When they realize that they made me stand for eight hours, and I’m pregnant, and I have this horrible sciatica, and it’s 100 degrees, oh, they’re going to feel so bad.” They didn’t feel bad at all. But anyway, it was fine. In fact, it would’ve been helpful if I was playing a more emotional character because I can give a real good performance when I’m pregnant, real emo.

How would you finish the sentence, “Yellowjackets is really about …”?



CYPRESS Friendship.

RICCI Haunting, the way trauma haunts you. The way you can never escape. The way it twists people in different ways.


LEWIS Aberrant survival tactics.

We know that these characters have done a bunch of aberrant things, as you say, including cannibalism. But do you have in your mind an idea that, “OK, she may have eaten another human being, but she would never do this“?

RICCI I know when they confront me because I’m like, “OK, she wouldn’t do that.” Misty wouldn’t drink that drink. Originally, in the script, she was drinking a Brandy Alexander, and I said, “No, Misty would drink a chocolate martini.” I have rules and stuff for her in my head, and they do conflict with the writers sometimes. I don’t think she actually is interested in men, at all. I think she does it because she’s bored, or because she thinks that’s what she’s supposed to do. Then, she’s also realized that she can have a lot of fun trying to trick them into having sex with her when they don’t want to. It’s like men will kind of know that you don’t want to have sex with them, but if they can get you to have sex with them, they won.

LEWIS It’s a power thing.

RICCI Misty’s way of doing it is through this really horrible manipulation, making him feel guilty and having sex with her while feeling guilty, which would be a terrible experience.

When you have a different perspective on your character than the writers, what do you do?


RICCI That’s part of the thing with TV that I’ve learned now, being involved in a production but not being one of the EPs, so you aren’t a part of creating what people do. “OK, they wrote this scene. I have to play this scene. If she was in this situation, how the fuck would she be in this situation, and why would she be?” Then, you don’t have to tell other people what you come up with. They can find out about it later when you do press.

Does anybody else have a line in their mind that their character wouldn’t cross?

LYNSKEY I had one. There was something written into a script where I was going on a date with my lover, and they had me going into my daughter’s bedroom and taking her underwear, which was just not practical because I wouldn’t fit it. She’s little. But also, ew. I think there was something, apparently, somewhere, people liked the thing in the pilot where I’m masturbating in my daughter’s bedroom. I was like, “Can that just be an isolated incident? I don’t want it to be a theme.” So I just was like, “I don’t want to do that.” They were great about it.

LEWIS It comes, I think, with experience and respect, that they appreciate if you have a point of view. I have an “anything goes” stamp on me, which they all know. But I have strong ideas, especially about my trajectory in midlife. I’ve looked at Natural Born Killers recently, and I’m like, “Jesus.” Thank goodness I had a partner like Woody Harrelson, but it is so sexual. No one forced me into that. I was a young nihilist who didn’t give a fuck, and I felt comfortable with Woody, and I liked the material. But nowadays, I’m very particular. So, they had written a sex scene, and I was like, “I don’t know. I don’t know that she even gets off. I don’t know that she even can have orgasms.” That’s how deep I went. So it was more like, is she doing something to get something? At the end of the day, I just didn’t even think she fucks, sorry to be so graphic, at this juncture that you saw in season one. I think she might’ve had relationships with all of them in the wilderness. I don’t know if they’re going to write it, but that’s what I’d like to think of Natalie.

LYNSKEY That’s what I think too.

RICCI What? I never thought of that. Who would they be making out with? I guess each other.


The finale hints that there may be additional Yellowjackets who survived into adulthood. Have actors been cast for those roles?

LEWIS Wait, Melanie, didn’t you say that on our chain, that someone we like is cast to be … (At this point there is meaningful eye contact among the four women.)

RICCI We don’t know for sure. That’s what we’ve heard was close to happening.

LYNSKEY We don’t know anything.

On season one, you were making this show under the radar. Now there’s so much fan speculation. Does that change the way you approach the work?

RICCI There’s more pressure going into season two.


CYPRESS Have you guys also had that feeling of like, “Can I do this? Is it going to be good, the second season? Am I going to fuck this character up?”

LYNSKEY I have those fears.

RICCI Me too, but because TV is so fast, and you have so little time with the information, the process of talking about the show afterward helps you to evolve your take on your character. To understand things that were intended with the character that maybe weren’t clear originally because you get to hear the EPs talk about it. I’m going to make changes in the next season based on what I have come to realize through all this talking.

Like what?

RICCI Well, that’s a secret.

How much do you want to know about the path that your character is on?


CYPRESS Fuck, I want to know everything. I sit there, and when I think about the show, I think, “What the fuck are they going to do with this character?” There’s so many different parts to her right now. The dog thing. She’s now a senator. There may be an old love coming back, you know? I’m like, “How are they going to do this?” I just want to know.

LYNSKEY Now you’re a full-time dog killer.

RICCI I didn’t even know that you were supposed to be the one that killed the dog.


RICCI I thought, “Oh, well maybe somebody broke in.”

LYNSKEY That could still be, right?


CYPRESS Wait, give me more to think about.

So you don’t go to the writers and say, “To be clear, did I kill the dog?”

CYPRESS Oh, we do. They just say, “Mmm.”

RICCI “We don’t know.”

CYPRESS But they do know.

RICCI I don’t think they’re trying to control us with no information or anything. Sometimes, they don’t want to commit to something that hasn’t been necessarily set in stone. I do find it frustrating to not know, and we’re never able to know fully. I have decided to learn how to function with knowing nothing.


Interview edited for length and clarity.

This story first appeared in the Aug. 3 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine. Click here to subscribe.

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James Gunn Addresses Peacemaker Future Amid Batgirl Cancelation




James Gunn Addresses Peacemaker Future Amid Batgirl Cancelation

Shockwaves from Warner Bros.’s cancelation of Batgirl have had many fans questioning the possibility of other DC-connected projects following suit. Amid outcries from fans of Batgirl, Michael Keaton, Brendan Fraser, and even Snyderverse fans who are always eager to picket Warner Bros., Peacemaker fans started asking James Gunn whether there was any possibility that his DC work was going to suffer amid the company’s cost-cutting exercise. Ironically, considering the history that led James Gunn to work with DCEU characters, it seems that the director and his shows are the only ones who are “safe.”

What seems like a lifetime ago, James Gunn was all set to start work on Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 for Disney and Marvel Studios when some old Twitter posts led to him being unceremoniously sacked. By the time Disney backtracked on their firing, Gunn was already committed to directing The Suicide Squad for Warner Bros., which is why Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 has taken so long to arrive. Now, during all the chaos at Warner Bros., it appears that Gunn is not worried at all about the second season of Peacemaker getting the ax. When asked if the show was safe, Gunn simply replied:


“Yes, guys, calm down.”

That is a relief for fans of the small sub-universe Gunn is building inside the DCEU, which along with The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker, is set to include at least another unannounced project and be linked to the Amanda Waller series that is in development. At least that side of the franchise doesn’t appear to be going anywhere.

Related: Peacemaker: Will More Suicide Squad Members Appear in Season 2?

Is Warner Bros. Still Planning on Rebooting The DCEU?

There have been rumors of a “soft-reboot” coming to the DCEU for a long time, and while it seems at times like Warner Bros. is heading in that direction, they have constantly denied any such intention. During San Diego Comic-Con, the entire focus of the Warner Bros. live-action DC panel was on Black Adam and Shazam! Fury of the Gods. Both of these movies have their small links to the wider DCEU, and once again, Warner Bros. seemed to be causing confusion by including a Justice League montage within the Shazam sequel while at the same time professing that they are not revisiting that particular DCEU set up in any way.

One thing clear from Dwayne Johnson’s appearance at SDCC is that he believes that Black Adam is setting the tone for a new DCEU, and based on everything else that is happening, he could be right. While there is no way of telling exactly where the franchise will be heading beyond The Flash in 2023, with new additional entries like Wonder Woman 3 constantly being stuck in limbo, it has been made clear that some big changes are being made in regards to the DCEU and fans will be hoping that those changes bring some kind of consistency to the franchise before it ends up crashing down around itself.


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